We're joined by Ricky Armellino (Ice Nine Kills, Hawk) and Chris Kelly (Ex Ice Nine Kills touring guitarist, Alustrium) to discuss the reality of living your dreams, eating eyeballs, and their brand new band Hillhaven.

Chapters:
00:02:54 - Shifting Focus in the Music Industry
00:09:19 - Overcoming Challenges and Changing Definitions of Success
00:12:36 - Being a Musician and its Impact on Others
00:16:01 - The Metallica Economy and Touring with LAMB of God
00:19:04 - Friendships with Rockstars
00:22:16 - Accidental Party with Metallica
00:27:53 - The Importance of Taking Time for Yourself
00:43:41 - Home Renovation Nightmare
00:46:55 - The Struggles of Balancing Work and Personal Life
00:50:29 - Working Out Late at Night and Sleep Issues
00:56:39 - Discussing Language Barrier Frustrations
01:02:38 - Awkward Encounter in Mexico City
01:08:33 - The Disastrous Metal Show
01:11:35 - The Fun of Having Actors on Stage
01:14:47 - The Importance of Rhythm and Orchestration in Songwriting
01:21:37 - Limiting Choices for Creativity
01:25:15 - The Importance of Having a Template
01:31:43 - Learning the First Song on Guitar

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