Our conversation with Julie Zhuo talking Early Facebook, Design Leadership, AI, building data-informed products and leaving Facebook to start Sundial.

0:00 - Introduction
4:03 - Early Facebook
8:15 - Global reach of Facebook
12:51 - Unknowns of Design
16:25 - Biggest lessons
18:38 - Strategies for growth
24:46 - Data-informed design
34:00 - Data vs Opinion
37:08 - Opinion-based experiment
43:30 - New startup
45:05 - Leaving Meta to startup
47:20 - Culture of startup vs Meta
51:50 - Silicon Valley and India
57:30 - Tech Layoffs
1:00:29 - Future of Design with AI
1:05:38 - Final Advice

Julie Zhuo is a highly influential design leader, an early-employee and former VP of Design at Facebook and now, the co-founder of Sundial, a modern analytics tool to help companies understand the story of their data to make better decisions. Before that, she was the VP of Product Design for the Facebook app, where she helped scale the service from 10 million users to over 2 billion during her nearly 14 years there. She is the Author of The Making of a Manager, became an instant Wall Street Journal bestseller and was selected as one of Amazon's Best Business and Leadership Books of 2019.
→ Julie’s advice for career development
→ Early Facebook lessons learnt
→ How Facebook design in the early days
→ How Facebook’s design evolved over time
→ Leaving Facebook to startup
→ Founding of Sundial
→ Building Data-informed products
→ AI’s impact on Design
→ What most people get wrong about using data on products
→ Career advice to being successful

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