The Hard Way Podcast is proudly presented by SPARTAN and hosted by Joe De Sena, Founder and CEO of SPARTAN and New York Times Best-Selling Author, is your ultimate ally in forging resilience for both mind, body, and unyielding grit. Strap in with Joe and his no-nonsense crew as they navigate the rugged path to peak performance and reveal the raw truths behind unstoppable success. Through captivating interviews with accomplished athletes, authors, entrepreneurs, professors, monks, moms, and adventurers, "The Hard Way" serves as your guide to conquering life's obstacles and achieving greatness.

The Hard Way Podcast is proudly presented by SPARTAN and hosted by Joe De Sena, Founder and CEO of SPARTAN and New York Times Best-Selling Author, is your ultimate ally in forging resilience for both mind, body, and unyielding grit. Strap in with Joe and his no-nonsense crew as they navigate the rugged path to peak performance and reveal the raw truths behind unstoppable success. Through captivating interviews with accomplished athletes, authors, entrepreneurs, professors, monks, moms, and adventurers, "The Hard Way" serves as your guide to conquering life's obstacles and achieving greatness.

Joe brings on longtime friend and an original Spartan; Zach Even Esh.

Joe and Zach talk about why it's important to toughen up in modern times and what the reasons are for the increase of softness in society.