For the past five years, journalist Emily Hanford of American Public Media has been reporting on how children learn to read. She’s revealed a profound disconnect between what kids need to learn and what they are taught in many schools. Her reporting has been a wake-up call for parents, educators and policymakers across the country. Emily visited Yale’s Institution for Social and Policy Studies https://isps.yale.edu/ for this conversation with ISPS Director Alan Gerber about the history and politics of reading instruction, why things went so wrong, and how to get it right.