In this episode of Off-Script with Expel, we’re joined by Founder, Chairman, and CTO of @Bugcrowd, Casey Ellis. Casey is a native Australian (now Bay-area based) who developed the idea for Bugcrowd on an airline flight in 2010. In his convo with Tina and Jon, Casey comes up with an infinite number of metaphors for getting businesses and (ethical) hackers to work together. You’ll walk through his journey from hacking to entrepreneurship, how he’s worked to win over the notoriously skeptical researcher community, and the difference between risk and security and why it matters.

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