To achieve environmental sustainability and social equity, many ecological economists argue that "degrowth" is needed in wealthy nations. To explore this fascinating topic, I’ve interviewed Giorgos Kallis, who is one of the world's leading researchers on degrowth. Giorgos Kallis is an ICREA professor at the Autonomous University of Barcelona, where he teaches ecological economics and political ecology. He is the author of four books on degrowth, and over 100 academic articles. In this interview, I ask him: what is degrowth, and how do we achieve it?

Books and articles by Giorgos Kallis that we discuss in the interview include:

The Case for Degrowth
https://politybooks.com/bookdetail/?i...

Degrowth and the State
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ecolecon.20...

Limits: Why Malthus Was Wrong and Environmentalists Should Care
https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=2...

Degrowth: A Vocabulary for a New Era (Epilogue: From Austerity to Dépense)
https://vocabulary.degrowth.org/