The Hard Way Podcast is proudly presented by SPARTAN and hosted by Joe De Sena, Founder and CEO of SPARTAN and New York Times Best-Selling Author, is your ultimate ally in forging resilience for both mind, body, and unyielding grit. Strap in with Joe and his no-nonsense crew as they navigate the rugged path to peak performance and reveal the raw truths behind unstoppable success. Through captivating interviews with accomplished athletes, authors, entrepreneurs, professors, monks, moms, and adventurers, "The Hard Way" serves as your guide to conquering life's obstacles and achieving greatness.

On this episode Joe De Sena interviews Eric Frohardt who is a retired Navy Seal and purple heart recipient. Eric talks about his time in active service and his transition to becoming COO of Defy.

Episode presented by Mudgear.