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We had @dillardfamilyofficial join us this week on the podcast. Jill tells stories of her experience growing up with 18 siblings, being on the reality TV show 19 Kids and Counting & being in the IBLP.

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Chapters:
00:00 - Episode 49
03:35 - Not being allowed to dance while growing up
04:25 - Why the Duggar’s had 19 kids
07:01 - Having to raise my younger siblings
17:02 - Faking scenes for TLC’s 19 Kids & Counting
22:44 - Being forced into the family business
25:30 - Leaving the cult I grew up in
34:27 - Explaining what courtship is
37:41 - Our first kiss was on our wedding day
41:45 - Building family culture as a couple
48:46 - My dad lied to the IRS about paying me
1:05:54 - A message to Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar

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