This is an episode of The Pomp Podcast with host Anthony "Pomp" Pompliano and guest, Cliff Hudson. He is a business executive best known for serving as chairman of the board and chief executive officer of Oklahoma City-based Sonic Corp. He also served as a trustee of the Ford Foundation and is a past chairman of the board of the National Trust for Historic Preservation.

In this conversation, we discuss scaling businesses, building a brand, intellectual curiosity, the value of being a master of none, and why flexibility and adaptation is so important.

Pomp writes a daily letter to over 50,000 investors about business, technology, and finance. He breaks down complex topics into easy to understand language while sharing opinions on various aspects of each industry. You can subscribe at https://pomp.substack.com/

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Intro
00:24 - Background
04:36 - Becoming a CEO
10:34 - The secret to Cliff Hudson’s success
19:06 - The Master of None Philosophy
26:13 - Why a narrow focus is risky
29:43 - Being intellectually curious
36:27 - Advice for young leaders
43:04 - Favorite books
45:05 - Sleep habits
47:43 - Aliens