If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is–or so the old saying goes. From alternate history to utopian hopepunk, science fiction and fantasy authors create nearly perfect worlds in the pages of their books. But while these writers may tell stories about seemingly idyllic places and societies, they also explore the problems that are interlocked with that. Join P. Djeli Clark (A Master of Djinn), Kerstin Hall (Star Eater), Catherynne M. Valente (Comfort Me With Apples), and Becky Chambers (A Psalm for the Wild-Built) as they discuss the dark side of perfection. Moderated by Tor.com publishing editor Ruoxi Chen.