Meet The Genius Behind Early Apple – Guy Kawasaki on Working With Steve Jobs
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 Published On Mar 24, 2024

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Back in the day, Guy Kawasaki worked at Apple alongside Steve Jobs. What was it like working closely with him, and what can we learn from Steve Jobs' learning style? Today, Guy is Chief Evangelist at Canva – a company led in a completely different way by Melanie Perkins. Tune into to hear everything Guy has learnt about impactful leadership.

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I’m Ryan Hawk and I’m a writer, podcaster, advisor, and teacher. My favorite thing to do is have a deep, long-form conversation with a thoughtful person. Fortunately, I get to do that often on my podcast, The Learning Leader Show. I created The Learning Leader Show in 2015 as a way for me to follow my curiosity about leadership and excellence with great rigor. It has since been listened to by millions of people in more than 150 countries.

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EPISODE TIME STAMPS

0:00 – Intro
0:49 – Learning how to sell
5:29 – The toughest tasks are blessings
6:30 – What Apple was like back in the 80s
8:52 – Landing a job you aren’t qualified in
10:54 – You have to love ALL the bits of your job
12:34 – The importance of changing your mind
15:05 – A mission driven nice leader – Melanie Perkins at Canva
22:17 – Networking is your biggest tool
27:12 – Can you control your luck?
30:45 – The people behind Guy's book
33:03 – How to say a REAL apology
34:56 – It’s OK to say “I don’t know”
37:03 – Halim Flowers perusing art after prison
39:58 – How to be remarkable
41:16 – Think Different campaign at Apple
44:11 – Steve Jobs’ reaction
47:14 – Who has influenced Guy Kawasaki?
49:56 – Podcast set up

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