In this episode of DEI After 5, Sacha discusses the current anti-DEI movement and the lack of effective responses in the conversations surrounding it. The guest, Shirley Knowles, a Chief Inclusion and Diversity Officer at Progress, joins to unpack what is happening, what needs to happen, and what actions individuals can take. Shirley shares her background in equity, inclusion, and diversity work, emphasizing the importance of understanding different perspectives to improve communication and foster meaningful connections.

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